Range Day With Smith & Wesson 2.0 And Threat Solutions

Recently I was invited to go shoot the new Smith & Wesson M&P Pro Series 2.0 with Mike from Threat Solutions. When opportunities come up I generally take them, especially when they involve new and shiny stuff. Being who I am I also took the opportunity to bring along a Smith & Wesson 640-1 .357 Magnum and the Smith & Wesson M&P R8 .357 Magnum just to show my wheel gun skills off.

One thing the reader should understand is that Mike shoots better than you, or me, or just about anyone. His groups are always tight and where they should be (not like mine). This level of shooting comes from years of training with some of the best. Mike was just returning from a night ops training session for special forces and special law enforcement units so he was shooting pretty well. I think the invite was to test the Smith & Wesson 2.0 in my hands because they are a more real world analog than the elite shooter’s like Mike from Threat Solutions.

The 2.0 came equipped with night sights that did the job out of the box, no adjustments were required and fit/finish seemed better than a lot of after market specials. On the sides there are ambi slide stops which made my typical drill of both hands and both eyes much easier.

Ever since I was a young boy in Detroit I was told to train for any circumstance and that it should include being incapacitated on one side. This little nugget of info given to me by my uncle the kung fu guy has proved invaluable throughout my military career and in civilian life. The Smith & Wesson 2.0 must have had the same uncle because it just worked every time no matter what.

The much touted S&W 2.0 trigger was a decided improvement over the original and didn’t leave my finger tip buzzing like with a Glock, Spingfield or Apex trigger.

The trigger reset was very positive leaving no ambiguity in a stressful scenario as to what condition it was in. Grips and fit are based on the work for the modular handgun system project and it reflects their attention to detail in this regard. I very much preferred the S&W 2.0 over the Glock gen 5 in the way it fits your hand. The S&W feels almost as good as a 1911 does.

The Smith & Wesson 2.0 comes with a polished feed ramp that engages about halfway down on round nose ammo. Feeding the latest defensive hollow points happens without a hitch and should outlast all the current trends in ammo.

Recoil impulse wasn’t even part of the picture in the 4.25″ barreled version I was testing. Not being afraid of recoil will undoubtably make the shooter better and less likely to pick up bad practices like flinching.

Yes the Smith & Wesson 2.0 seems to stack up to all of the marketing on the subject and is closer to perfection out of the box than the other firearm maker’s claims.

It should be noted that Smith & Wesson, Threat Solutions, and The Gun Room Inc. didn’t pay for me to write any part of this little 2 minute review. No ammunition was provided and no I didn’t get a t-shirt or sticker either. This was merely an opportunity to go shooting and as a rule I don’t like plastic guns. But…. if I was to consider throwing money at a cheap plastic gun I’d probably throw it at the S&W 2.0 Pro Series.

 

Smith & Wesson M&P 2.0 4.25″ Pro Series 9MM

 

 

Smith & Wesson Performance Center TRR8 VS Smith & Wesson R8

Not unlike the Smith & Wesson R8 The Smith & Wesson TRR8 model 327 comes with rails top and bottom that are removable.

The Smith & Wesson R8 has a fixed under-lug rail that is non-removable while the TRR8 has an under-lug rail that easily comes off for those of you looking for easy N Frame holsters out there.

The TRR8 also is cut out on the opposite side of the barrel shroud in efforts to make it lighter and quicker pointing.

The Smith & Wesson TRR8’s front sight gets the brass dot treatment as an upgrade where the Smith & Wesson R8 has the more standard white dot.

Going rearward on the TRR8 we find a fully adjustable notch that is usable while the top strap rail is installed and on the R8 tested we find the same adjustable sight but in “V” notch configuration. Both sighting systems are easy to acquire and put rounds on target as if they were put there by a laser the shooting is so precise.

The Smith & Wesson TRR8 also sports a cylinder that is cut for moon clips making charging 8 rounds immediate and positive. Mike is loving the moon clips on his R8 and even ordered more so he can shed lead like all of the hi-capacity guys at the range. This moon clip system is fooling everyone on the R8 and TRR8 because reloads are so fast and the authority of the 357 Magnum round makes them all take notice and question the validity of their 9mm.

As in the R8 version the Smith & Wesson TRR8 features a Performance Center tuned action with trigger stop that allows for ultra-fast shooting Michulek style and immediate trigger reset for fast follow up shots if you need more than one .357 Magnum for anything.

The Smith & Wesson TRR8 seems to do duty anywhere it’s deployed and makes a great home defense or woods gun for when it’s not on duty.

The Gun Room Inc. has this model in stock today for those S.W.A.T. Teams or Special Forces units where in-fallible reliability are key to mission success. For those of you just looking for a great gun that shoots phenomenal and has the power of the 357 Magnum in 8 shots give us a call (503)777-3931.

Smith & Wesson R8 Shots Fired

Let’s start off this review by clearly stating I never intended to write a review on the Smith & Wesson R8 Pistol. This article was going to be about shooting the 1911 pistol everyone loves around the world. Yes I shot the 1911, and in more than a couple of calibers with Mike Mcdonald from Threat-Solutions in Oregon. The point of the article was to show the tacticool wannabees up with proven tactical and real combat experiance. More on this point later, and you’ll want to stick around for it too.

Everything was going great yesterday at Douglas Ridge Range. Rounds were being sent towards paper perpetrators in staccato fashion from the lanes we controlled. Paper bad guy after paper bad guy fell to the blistering onslaught of hot lead streaming from the 1911s.

While resting and resetting the range etc., the new plastic gun VS old iron 1911 discussion came up and merits of each platform were discussed without the inevitable web flame war ensuing. It’s kinda nice to actually hang out with guys who are good at shooting whatever is in front of them. I feel this is the real test of a shooter, to be able to pick up and shoot whatever lies on the table or deck and to shoot it well.

Enter the Smith & Wesson R8 Pistol model 327:

At first the wannabees will jeer at the old wheel gun design and not even realize their semi auto striker fired plastic gun is almost as old in the design world. I attribute this to short sidedness and lack of a good knowledge base coupled to piss poor training. Shoot a million rounds though any one handgun style and you start to feel like you’re the goods. Well you aren’t, combat will weed out the fools and they will be humbled by the experience. The real operators of the group will turn their very bodies into weapons if pressed and use any weapon at hand to violently fight and win.

Threat-Solutions’ Mike being the consummate professional merely picked up the Smith & Wesson R8 Pistol and put 8 rounds of full power .357 Magnum thru two holes that touched. Keep in mind this is cold and he wasn’t even allowed to see or touch the Smith & Wesson R8 prior to the volley. Mike’s comment on it “That’s a good shooter.” This is a whole diatribe in Mike speak and something he never surrenders unless it’s merited.

My turn on the Smith & Wesson R8 Pistol was a bit more… let’s say spacious, in the grouping. Don’t kid yourself reader, it was probably better than yours on a very good day. I shot the S&W R8 with both hands, both eyes, at distance and up close and did reloads from moon clips and loosies as well. This gun runs! It runs so well I forgot I was there to do a 1911 write up altogether and abandoned the other guns.

The whole review stack online and the guys who sold their S&W R8s to get some low end 1911 made a huge mistake in my viewing. I read the reviews online since our outing and even talked to my buddy who’s known in the online review community “Nut N Fancy” about this handgun, and he loved it too. In fact they all have one on his squad and they love shooting it as much as I did. The whole made for SWAT point guys thing I can take or leave, this M&P Performance Center wonder is a standout and worth it at any price.

Would I own it? Does it meet my go to war standard? That would be a yes! I spoke to some SEAL buddies about this gun and found out they love it and own it themselves. That to me says volumes just like Mike from  Threat-Solutions said earlier “It’s a good shooter.” The never fail, never quit, never doubt confidence aura on Smith & Wesson’s M&P R8 Pistol makes this gun one of my all time favorites. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind you will shoot this gun better than just about anything else made to date you’ve had a chance to lay your hands on.

Is this a tactical gun? You betcha! Is this a cool gun? Even more so! The rails on the top strap and under lug make adding any of the new tech a breeze which makes this a very good choice for home defense or crime fighting alike. One can’t deny the power of the .357 Magnum but you’ll be left wondering where did the recoil go? Sighting is very quick, very very quick with the Performance Center sights and accuracy is better than you can shoot out of the box. I could go on and on about how good the trigger is in double action and single action but you wouldn’t believe it. You probably think I work for Smith & Wesson but I don’t. I spend my time on the water most days or training when I’m not. I’m not a gun expert but Mike from  Threat-Solutions is, and the guys at The Gun Room Inc. are too. That’s where I decided to order my very own Smith & Wesson M&P R8 Pistol from. Go talk to them, they will get you what you want even if this legendary gun isn’t your thing. (trust me it is) Want to shoot like Mike? You better talk to Threat Solutions about that and spend less time on social media.

I believe in training like you fight, and fighting to win. The S&W M&P R8 will take you to new levels, it drains fast from the water, it doesn’t miss, and it won’t stop if you’re on your back or against the wall. Yes the web armchair commandos will go on and on about this or that wiz bang they read about from their mostly ad mag/blog/website and swear you need something else. These guys aren’t shooters, if they were they wouldn’t have the time to talk all that crap. The re-emergence of the wheel gun or the simple fact that that fixed barrels are more accurate?

You decide.

The Smith & Wesson M&P is a good place to start the next level of your training.

To contact Mike from Threat-Solutions call (503)320-4733

To contact The Gun Room Inc. call (503)777-3931 (tell em Zodiac Mike sent ya)

 

Smith & Wesson Performance Center R8

Smooth……..Nimble……..Balanced……..

Eight*Shots*Of*Steam*Rolling*.357*Magnum*Power*!!!!!!!!


It’s a Smith & Wesson Performance Center R8 of course! While not a new handgun it’s becoming one of the most coveted revolvers anywhere. Do a web search and you see people putting it into video games with their own homemade code. There are You Tube videos, songs, reviews and multitudes of blogs written about the little known revolver that could.

Lauded as a tactical point man gun with rails that’ll take what ever gadget is trendy on the top strap and barrel it seemly has everything a person needs in one gun. This is probably why you don’t see a great many real ones in the wild.

Smith & Wesson’s Performance Center spends a bit of time tuning the action until it’s smoother than whipped butter. Two staging becomes a mere thought and very positive with the trigger break as crisp as a new dollar bill. Single stage shooting is unlike any other revolver, the lead is coaxed out of the pre tensioned barrel with such finesse you hardly know you are shooting the power house .357 Magnum round.

You are surprised when the air is torn asunder in a ball of furious blue flame making the targets fall out of fear if not the authoritative mass of it’s blistering projectile. The experience makes you giddy with endorphins the first and every time you shoot it. When you first see the Smith & Wesson R8 your brain says oh it’s just another revolver, you don’t even realize you’ve already picked it up and are thumbing the hammer. It’s massive, but, ….dare I say…light? It feels like you slipped through a mirror into a land of weird juxtaposition. How can it be so light yet so positive, so awe inspiring?

By now everyone else is looking at you at the gun counter, it’s very much like you discovered something new, shiny. The tribe grows restless, hoping you won’t buy it before they get a chance to handle it themselves. Every gun buyer has felt it but not like this.

The R8 connects to everyone who handles it in some unexplainable way. You can see it in their faces, questioning everything they know about what a gun is supposed to be. For some reason they feel like they’ve been lied to their whole lives. Revolvers are supposed to be heavy, they are supposed to be lacking capacity, they are supposed to be slow to reload. WHAT GIVES!

Everyone knows the end of the story but you, you’re still figuring out how you got home at this point. Reaching frantically to mount a light on the R8’s barrel, and stealing the nearest example off of your now extinct semi-auto. Watching from the corner your home defense shotgun cowers in fear of it’s own inevitable demise. Your match pistol snickers until it realizes you are walking towards it, hand out stretched to snatch that glass right off like you are stealing it’s crown. Sure you could be a purist and use the incredibly accurate iron V notch sights, you can even leave the top strap rail off, but why?

If you thought you heard your house sigh chances are you did. Everyone breathes easier with the Smith & Wesson R8 on their side. Everything you could ever need for a home defense system the R8 delivers in a very serious gun that is all business. Make no mistakes this gun is absolutely terrifying to look upon with the muzzle pointed at you. The psychological effect on a criminal facing it must be debilitating.

The Smith & Wesson Performance Center’s R8 is cutting edge, it doesn’t even seem to be of this world, but it exists. If you’re real lucky you may spot one in the wild but whatever you do don’t let someone else see it first!

Give us a call here at The Gun Room Inc. to see one for yourselves (503)777-3931