Colt Delta Elite 10mm Milo’s Pick Of The Week

Today while the boys were showing some handguns to a couple of U.S. Marines that came in Milo went into the back and came forward with a Colt Delta Elite 10mm 1911. I guess this week Milo is liking the Colt Delta Elite because he starts squawking every time someone tries to put it back away.

The debate over the 1911 VS any other handgun continues today but so many servicemen and women swear by it that it’ll likely go on forever. Speaking of debates when you start talking about bullets and chamberings everything goes out the window. One caliber that seems to be making more than a blip on the bullet radar is the 10mm.

Way up north in Alaska more people are carrying the 10mm as their backup replacing the old reliable 44 Magnum in many cases. The people who jumped on the .40 cal bandwagon have come around and are now snapping up Colt Delta Elites to scratch that power and speed itch.

The Colt Delta Elite 10mm 1911 equates to a very well thought out platform for the 10mm cartridge and the power it holds. People who like a handgun that shoots well and don’t want to compromise by switching to a diminutive caliber love the Colt Delta Elite because it checks all the boxes off.

Colt Delta Elite 10mm Match

The Gun Room Inc. your local resource for everything Colt.

(503)777-3931

FN Five-seveN® Milo’s Pick Of The Week

Milo was digging around in the back of the shop looking for some peanuts or other treats he stashed when all of a sudden there came a squawking. Turns out Milo found some FN Five-seveN® stock that wanted out of the box. Those of you who were able to get these when we had them (before the military and police designations) will remember how much fun they were. I’ll put FN’s blurb at the bottom of this post.

Imagine a pistol that holds 20 .556 caliber rounds in a magazine, then shrink down the ammo, magazine, pistol and get rid of the buffer tube and spring you were undoubtable thinking of and you have a FN Five-seven®. If you’re still with me you begin to see what the fuss is all about and you’re lacing up your boots to get down to The Gun Room Inc. to get one. Do you feel lucky? That’s what you’ll have to be to get your non- military or police hands on one today. We have a very few of these left and once they’re gone your luck runs out.

I’ve been wanting to get my mom one of these for her daily life on the property with all of the critters she comes across. The problem is they are so hard to get ammo for right?

Well color me surprised! I was able to have ammo on Monday from an order on Friday so it’s pretty easy to get legit ammo it seems. To me the real problem is now I have to decide if mom is getting one or I am!

Sure, it’s a gun made out of plastic that goes for well North of $1000, and frankly not even close to my style but…. Milo sure knows how to pick winners for being a parrot! Lightweight, high firepower, multiple mag fun sitting right in front of me with only a form 4473 standing in my way. I think you know how this story is going to end.

If you are just reading this you had already be reaching for the keys or you will miss out on this FN Five-seven® pistol until next time Milo goes on a treasure hunt in the tactical armory.

FN’s blurb is below.

“The FN Five-seveN® pistol was developed in the early 1990s and features a cold hammer-forged barrel that is chrome-lined for extended service life. The polymer-framed FN Five-seveN® offers single-action operation, low felt recoil, 20-round magazine capacity, and is equipped with an ambidextrous, forward-mounted manual safety, and an accessory rail that accepts tactical lights and lasers.

Learn more about the 5.7x28mm ammunition

LE & Military pricing on request.

FN Five-seven® Product Numbers

*Product follows USA specifications
*Military products available to U.S. sales only”

Milo’s Pick Of The Week: S&W .357 Combat Magnum/Model 19

Long before the Glock 19 and the 9mm movement of the 80’s there lived another Combat Pistol with the designation of Model 19. For decades if you were a gun fighter you carried a model S&W Model 19 Combat Magnum, there simply wasn’t any substitute. Many other pistols over the years have borrowed very heavily on the Combat Magnum or as it was later known the S&W Model 19. None of the copy cat guns ever matched the S&W Model 19’s accuracy or stopping power of the full house .357 Magnum. It’s still rated as a higher than 90% one shot stop against a bad guy in a world saturated with 9mm multi shot fails.

Bad guys get away or live after being shot 13 times with today’s modern 9mm handguns so one has to wonder if more capacity is better than the wheel guns of yesterday.

Smith & Wesson created a legend when they created the Combat Magnum, and many of those early guns still exist today albeit at a premium to collectors. Features such as pinned and recessed barrels and cylinders are common place on the S&W right up to the 80’s. A quality S&W Model 19 Combat Magnum in it’s original box will demand a nice price in good condition but they are well worth it.

The Gun Room Inc. usually has one or two Combat Magnums in stock but as the trend to acquire good guns continues in America they only become more collectible and valuable.

The Search For A $300 Gun

Recently I was put on a mission from a military buddy to find a good gun for $300 or less for his wife. Somehow or another the guys I served with thought I was an expert on guns since I always figured out what was wrong with theirs. Let me state that for the record that I’m no expert, just lucky sometimes.

I figured this would be an easy mission since I’m always reading about guns in magazines, online, and going to different stores in my day to day. Was I ever wrong! The first lesson I learned was these “magazines” put up articles and press releases based on the almighty dollar, not usually because some new gun is really awesome or ground breaking.

The second big lesson I learned is doing “research” online means you are really just price shopping or looking for someone who agrees with your opinion. This wasn’t as big a shocker in the connected society of today’s continual bombardment of bad information. Fake reviews and content stuffing are the norm I’m afraid.

The third and probably most important lesson I learned is big retailers don’t cater to the shooter, they cater to volume numbers and the almighty dollar. What this meant to me is I was only able to find guns of the type which yielded the most profit and the lowest quality. Sure a lot of guns looked good but when I put my hands on them it was apparent who they were targeted for.

To make a long story short none of the guns from all of the magazines, and internet articles or adds measured up to what I’d consider as a good gun. This made me think of what it is that I consider a good gun, and what level of workmanship or lack there of I could live with let alone recommend to my buddy. I couldn’t let him down, he never let me down no matter what, not once , not ever. I decided this was what I should be looking for him and his wife.

I needed to get real and so did they, there is no such thing as a good $300 gun unless it’s a good used one at that cost. All of the plastic or polymer or whatever you want to call them guns bandied about were absolute garbage. The only thing they did well was be cheap, and depreciate after you bought one. Comparing investment cast parts, metal injection molded parts (MIM), and plastic parts to forged steel is pretty eye opening.

I didn’t know where the disconnect came from, why did these technologies grow and thrive in the firearms industry? Going back 30 years or so I think the picture becomes clearer, it seems to line up with the 9mm craze that started about then. If you’re not old enough to go back that far you’re probably not old enough to agree with anything I’m saying because you are the target for these $300 guns. A good gun cost more than that back then and frankly a good used gun from then commands much higher prices today. Manufacturers aren’t stupid, when they see they can create a product for less than 1/3 the cost and sell it at the same price as the higher quality more labor intensive unit they jump in with both feet.

But technology has advanced and with CNC machining et al ad nauseam blah blah blah. I’ve been a machinist since 1985 in one form or another and have worked in many aspects and forms of manufacturing so my eye is very critical. I stopped by every gun store in the greater Portland area and what I ended up with was The Gun Room on Se Foster Rd. They seemed to have the biggest selection of good used guns out of all the places I went to, however I didn’t find any $300 good guns.

Once I came to grips with cost VS quality I gave my buddy a call and he took his wife in to see the guys at The Gun Room Inc. ending up with not one but two guns. The first one they selected was the Sig Sauer 938 for him and for her they went with a S&W model 640.

Like I said I’m no expert but I feel that the guys at The Gun Room Inc. took care of us with good stuff at the right price. The next time you’re looking for a good cheap gun, temper your expectations or save a bit more. You’ll be better in the long run if you practice patience and use good judgement. Just because your brother or cousin says his gun is the best it might not be the best for you.

Colt Family Of Single Action Pistols

It’s a family affair here at The Gun Room Inc., always has been, probably always will be. The Gun Room Inc.’s family is both literal and figurative, we are three generations and growing. All of our customers are also family here and quite a few of our fine firearms come from the very same customers in our ever growing family.

When It comes to Colt the family tree has roots in the beginning all the way to present. From first U.S. issue to modern versions of old classics The Gun Room Inc. has a Colt for you. Yes we sell other fine firearms besides Colt, but when you are talking single action you can’t have a serious discussion with out mentioning Colt and their legendary pistols.

When The Gun Room Inc.’s patriarch founded the company in the early 60’s he had no idea how big his family would grow but he did know a good pistol when he saw one. The Gun Room Inc. has been the Colt resource of Portland for over 50 years and as such has always had just what the aspiring collector was looking for. To see our ever changing collection of Colt single action pistols stop by our store on SE Foster Rd. and put a piece of history in your hand.

The Gun Room Inc.

5537 SE Foster Rd.

Portland Oregon 97206

(503)777-3931

Pinned And Recessed

People ask me what exactly “pinned and recessed” means when they hear it at the counter. It’s usually someone new to shooting and collecting, but sometimes it’s an old hand that never shot revolvers before.

The term pinned and recessed comes from the Smith & Wesson line and refers to build features on older pistols. It was these features a buddy in the early 80’s gave me the heads up on to check them out. That got me interested in seeing them in person as his living was specifically firearms orientated. At the time I was involved with nuclear submarine repair as a machinist and precision was my thing. I understood metals and machining techniques and what was easily done vs difficult.

Putting a pre 1982 S&W in your hands for the first time is eye opening. The level of precision is stunning and so much so it seems as if it’s the most natural thing in the world when your hand marries it. As you roll it over you don’t even pick up the fact that there is a “pin” in the top strap. Your first inclination is to naturally push the cylinder release forward and open the cylinder. Think about it, what do you do first? The obvious reason that people gravitate to when answering this question is they want to see if it’s loaded. Considering I just showed it as empty, closed it and handed it over right to their hand there is another reason. Everything is so much more natural with a revolver that it literally takes no experience to know how they function.

Upon inspection of the cylinder face the observer will note that the cylinder is counter bored. This counter bore is what is called “recessed” in the vernacular. If you drop in a cartridge the rim fits perfectly into it leaving a flush fit. The machining process of counter boring the cylinder is a premium feature and it adds cost to the pistol manufacturing process which the customer has to bear.

The “pin” in the top strap is there to strengthen the barrel to fame joint where they are mated and also represents added cost to the manufacturing. Yes the customer has to bear that cost too. These added costs to the price of the pistol was the reason Smith & Wesson discontinued them as standard features in 1982. The end user simply wanted cheaper guns and about this time the plastic guns started to emerge in the market place.

Today cost seems to drive the beginner market, people just want to have a gun but don’t care about quality as in the past. Good enough mentality ensures price remains the driving force in the market segment.The over abundant plastic or “polymer” as they like to call it handgun is by far the most asked for at the counter, however more and more people are seeking out the old gold. Let’s face it plastic guns are like belly buttons, everyone has one, and none are very remarkable. After the buzz of buying wears off the plastic gun owner needs to justify his purchase with tall claims of accuracy, or elevated capacity, or tactical superiority, blah blah blah. When the shooter starts to want something nice they come back and stand at the counter gazing at old revolvers made out of steel. The plastic gun shooter will always balk at price but understands that their belly button gun is not worth anything when they try to sell it. There’s the rub, throwing away money on some instant gratification. The new generation saw a video online and unbeknownst to them they have fallen to marketing disguised as a relevant review.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m very technical and like to ride the edge of possibility the same as anyone else but I know a good thing when I see it. Not everyone can afford a pinned and recessed S&W wheel gun, and for those instant no money shooters plastic remains as a cheap option. For the shooter with a bit more money or better saving and spending habits there’s the good stuff. The Gun Room Inc. is no doubt more into the good stuff over plastic fantastic throw away guns and this is precisely the reason I go there.

Don’t be surprised when the latest tactical article looses it’s luster and you want something fun, accurate and natural to shoot. Don’t be surprised when you compare a hand fitted and tuned S&W to a new model whatever. They cost as much or often times more. It’s a lot harder to make pistols by hand one at a time then it is to empty molds and drop in stamped parts on volume cheap guns. If your mantra is “As long as it goes bang” you’re not even playing the same sport. If you want to hit the “X” in the center of the bulls eye then have a look at some of the older S&W pistols The Gun Room Inc. has to offer.

For people who want the old craftsmanship but new school materials take a look at S&W Performance Center firearms. You’ll pay more but you get the best of both worlds.

 

 

Christmas Gift Giving Ideas

Filson Since 1897

It’s the giving time of year, Christmas makes it easy to give that someone special the gift of gear. Whether you like to hunt, fish, hike, or just be outside nothing warms the heart like Filson. The Gun Room Inc. has Filson gear in stock in our upstairs archery/clothing showroom for any activity. We even see military divers come in for tin cloth working clothes because they are the only thing that stands up to the rigors of deep sea and salvage diving. You don’t have to be a cowboy to appreciate the best in outdoor clothing! As they say “You might as well have the best!”.

Sitka Gear

Hunters rejoice in The Gun Room Inc.’s collection of Sitka Gear performance outdoor wear. New and old patterns in layer technology ensure that everyone is comfortable in the worst conditions the field throws at you. Come in and get the Sitka pattern you always wanted.

KORE Essentials

Everyone who carries a concealed firearm has come to realize that their belt is a weak link in their carry system. To address this often overlooked item The Gun Room Inc. stocks KORE Essentials belts. KORE Essentials come in one size to fit all, simply trim to fit and you’re done. Talk about a great stocking stuffer with KORE Essentials you can’t go wrong.

The Gun Room Inc. stocks cleaning kits, holsters, slings, gun belts and ammo carriers, and more! Stop in and see the stuff of dreams for your special someone and give them the gift of the outdoors for Christmas.

The Gun Room Inc.

5537 SE Foster Rd.

Portland Oregon, 97206

(503)777-3931

Range Day With Smith & Wesson 2.0 And Threat Solutions

Recently I was invited to go shoot the new Smith & Wesson M&P Pro Series 2.0 with Mike from Threat Solutions. When opportunities come up I generally take them, especially when they involve new and shiny stuff. Being who I am I also took the opportunity to bring along a Smith & Wesson 640-1 .357 Magnum and the Smith & Wesson M&P R8 .357 Magnum just to show my wheel gun skills off.

One thing the reader should understand is that Mike shoots better than you, or me, or just about anyone. His groups are always tight and where they should be (not like mine). This level of shooting comes from years of training with some of the best. Mike was just returning from a night ops training session for special forces and special law enforcement units so he was shooting pretty well. I think the invite was to test the Smith & Wesson 2.0 in my hands because they are a more real world analog than the elite shooter’s like Mike from Threat Solutions.

The 2.0 came equipped with night sights that did the job out of the box, no adjustments were required and fit/finish seemed better than a lot of after market specials. On the sides there are ambi slide stops which made my typical drill of both hands and both eyes much easier.

Ever since I was a young boy in Detroit I was told to train for any circumstance and that it should include being incapacitated on one side. This little nugget of info given to me by my uncle the kung fu guy has proved invaluable throughout my military career and in civilian life. The Smith & Wesson 2.0 must have had the same uncle because it just worked every time no matter what.

The much touted S&W 2.0 trigger was a decided improvement over the original and didn’t leave my finger tip buzzing like with a Glock, Spingfield or Apex trigger.

The trigger reset was very positive leaving no ambiguity in a stressful scenario as to what condition it was in. Grips and fit are based on the work for the modular handgun system project and it reflects their attention to detail in this regard. I very much preferred the S&W 2.0 over the Glock gen 5 in the way it fits your hand. The S&W feels almost as good as a 1911 does.

The Smith & Wesson 2.0 comes with a polished feed ramp that engages about halfway down on round nose ammo. Feeding the latest defensive hollow points happens without a hitch and should outlast all the current trends in ammo.

Recoil impulse wasn’t even part of the picture in the 4.25″ barreled version I was testing. Not being afraid of recoil will undoubtably make the shooter better and less likely to pick up bad practices like flinching.

Yes the Smith & Wesson 2.0 seems to stack up to all of the marketing on the subject and is closer to perfection out of the box than the other firearm maker’s claims.

It should be noted that Smith & Wesson, Threat Solutions, and The Gun Room Inc. didn’t pay for me to write any part of this little 2 minute review. No ammunition was provided and no I didn’t get a t-shirt or sticker either. This was merely an opportunity to go shooting and as a rule I don’t like plastic guns. But…. if I was to consider throwing money at a cheap plastic gun I’d probably throw it at the S&W 2.0 Pro Series.

 

Smith & Wesson M&P 2.0 4.25″ Pro Series 9MM

 

 

Colt 1911 38 Super Models In Short Supply

Gun retailers have been noticing a supply shortage of Colt 1911’s chambered in 38 Super recently. Colt’s on hand supply is near zero at this point and it’s causing a drive to snap up the remaining models in local gun stores. Thankfully The Gun Room Inc. has a goodly supply in the 38 Super caliber with all levels of fit and finish but that supply can’t last long.

The venerable (and I hate to use the word venerable because it’s become synonymous with gun writing) 38 Super is a caliber that many people don’t know about or simply don’t know any actionable intel on. Delivering more power than a 9mm and better accuracy, it’s simply passed up because of logistical decisions back in the early 1900’s influencing gun mentality today. In simple terms 20th century governments and finally NATO “settled” on 9mm because it was smaller and cheaper as a cartridge to produce and ship. Enter today’s wiz bang firearm marketing teams and suddenly you must have a 9mm despite its lack of performance in the battle space or any stopping power to speak of.

The 38 Super’s history and genesis is one borne of necessity, not cheapness. Gangsters were making headway into our civilized society and the anemic 9mm wasn’t getting the job done. The cops simply needed better more powerful guns. For about 14 years the 38 Super reigned supreme and was the caliber of choice for law enforcement, that is until 1934 when it was eclipsed by the .357 Magnum for power.

Colt’s 38 Super 1911 has been in the background ever since only making appearances in America when people rediscover the supremacy it offers over wimpy 9mm loads or in competitive shooting winning prizes. Worth note is once you leave America the 38 Super gains ground significantly over the 9mm or similar round. In Australia the 38 Super reigns supreme as it does in Mexico and the Americas because it’s a gun you can own. A few countries don’t allow citizens to own calibers that the military uses and lucky for them, their militaries use the cheaper less effective 9mm!

Yes the smack talking and maligning of the often misunderstood 38 Super gets to be pretty deep with so-called experts pushing you in the direction of the zombie apocalypse caliber or the “Red Dawn” option without any real understanding. Sure get a 9mm, heck get two, but do yourself a favor and go shoot the 38 Super. The most common side effect is that you’re puzzled you haven’t gotten a 38 Super yet. If you are scratching your head and thinking I’m full of it, you’re always going to be able to get a 38 Super you’re probably right. But…, just in case the 38 Super is in short supply, go on down to The Gun Room Inc. and get you one!

Smith & Wesson Performance Center TRR8 VS Smith & Wesson R8

Not unlike the Smith & Wesson R8 The Smith & Wesson TRR8 model 327 comes with rails top and bottom that are removable.

The Smith & Wesson R8 has a fixed under-lug rail that is non-removable while the TRR8 has an under-lug rail that easily comes off for those of you looking for easy N Frame holsters out there.

The TRR8 also is cut out on the opposite side of the barrel shroud in efforts to make it lighter and quicker pointing.

The Smith & Wesson TRR8’s front sight gets the brass dot treatment as an upgrade where the Smith & Wesson R8 has the more standard white dot.

Going rearward on the TRR8 we find a fully adjustable notch that is usable while the top strap rail is installed and on the R8 tested we find the same adjustable sight but in “V” notch configuration. Both sighting systems are easy to acquire and put rounds on target as if they were put there by a laser the shooting is so precise.

The Smith & Wesson TRR8 also sports a cylinder that is cut for moon clips making charging 8 rounds immediate and positive. Mike is loving the moon clips on his R8 and even ordered more so he can shed lead like all of the hi-capacity guys at the range. This moon clip system is fooling everyone on the R8 and TRR8 because reloads are so fast and the authority of the 357 Magnum round makes them all take notice and question the validity of their 9mm.

As in the R8 version the Smith & Wesson TRR8 features a Performance Center tuned action with trigger stop that allows for ultra-fast shooting Michulek style and immediate trigger reset for fast follow up shots if you need more than one .357 Magnum for anything.

The Smith & Wesson TRR8 seems to do duty anywhere it’s deployed and makes a great home defense or woods gun for when it’s not on duty.

The Gun Room Inc. has this model in stock today for those S.W.A.T. Teams or Special Forces units where in-fallible reliability are key to mission success. For those of you just looking for a great gun that shoots phenomenal and has the power of the 357 Magnum in 8 shots give us a call (503)777-3931.

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